[roger_smith]

This isn't true at all. As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 5, I've always had a high interest in things like this and I've done quite some research into ADHD in my time. I like to understand my inabilities in order to learn how to overcome the restraints. What this form of "speed" does to you is entirely different to speed itself. Sure, the treatments are indeed amphetamines which is why if you gave those tablets to someone who does not have ADD/ADHD will get as hyper as someone with ADHD is normally.

ADHD is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. Due to this chemical imbalance, a person with ADHD's brain reacts differently to different things. For example, amphetamines produce the opposite effect to what they do with normal people. However true I know this is, it puzzles me too. I've never tried Speed myself so I'm not sure on the effects it would have on me. I doubt it'd make me lethargic but you never know! Perhaps someone with ADHD who has experience with taking amphetamines would care to shed light on this?

So I'm not a user of uppers (cocaine/meth/etc) however I can share my first hand experience with ADD and caffeine. I tend to drink a LOT of coffee (probably too much) and I've found when I get about 4 cups in, something finally kinda clicks and I'll get a wave of focus and be able to really crank through tasks/projects. It's hard to describe to someone who hasn't experienced the focus issues.

[dopamine]

Morphine is extensively metabolized and to my knowledge would have no effect at <1 mg. Having a high does not equal relative chance for dependance, take for example the anticonvulsant drug pregabalin (Lyrica) and pretty much any serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Even antipsychotics can cause "dependance", so to say, that being the presence of a withdrawal syndrome upon discontinuation of the antipsychotic.

'Addiction' has many different pathways and it certainly is not as simple as LOL DOPAMINE PATHWAYS XD. Many neurotransmitters are implicated, and dependance can occur with (possibly) any psychotropic drug. That is not to say that the (neurotransmitter) dopamine is not involved, but it is certainly not dependent on just a dopaminergic response.

Moreover, after some quick Googling, it would seem that there is little to no data referencing the addictive potential, side effects of, pharmacology of, or anything other than the structure of MMB-CHIMINACA, much less it's predecessor, AB-CHIMINACA. To say that your synthetic cannabinoid is completely safe is not only completely stupid, but goes against everything else you have said about synthetic pharmaceuticals - but we don't want to take the blinders off the horse, do we?

Go go go. Get addicted on DMT. Do it. It causes intense euphoria but has absolutely no addiction potential because of serotonin syndrome. When ur body is out of serotonin, ur high is just shit so you naturally stop taking DMT. Same story KINDA goes to MDMA.

When you take morphine daily, your body natural morphine "generator" gets shutdown so you feel like shit because there is no morphine in your body the next day(Google: endorphins). Yep, this is the only reason you get withdrawal from opioid binges.

I sure as hell do believe that cancer researchers are on script kiddy hack forum lol.

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Morphine is extensively metabolized and to my knowledge would have no effect at <1 mg. Having a high does not equal relative chance for dependance, take for example the anticonvulsant drug pregabalin (Lyrica) and pretty much any serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Even antipsychotics can cause "dependance", so to say, that being the presence of a withdrawal syndrome upon discontinuation of the antipsychotic.

If you take very little morphine everday, your body won't shut off its endorphins. You can't get withdrawal from such extremely small doses that do almost nothing to you.

To me, addiction is not the high, its the withdrawal that keeps you taking more. I never get to the withdrawal stage(Spice doesn't give me any withdrawal no matter how long i take it) and I never go in to heroin or amphetamine binges so they're not addicting to me lmao. Don't get me wrong, i ABSOLUTELY LOVE amphetamine and heroin but I don't need them to function(like addicts do).

But yea.. cancer researchers on skid forum.. sure thing bro, no problem

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I think he'll be a liberal arts major... if he goes to college...

I don't know what that is. College is behind me anyway.

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Moreover, after some quick Googling, it would seem that there is little to no data referencing the addictive potential, side effects of, pharmacology of, or anything other than the structure of MMB-CHIMINACA, much less it's predecessor, AB-CHIMINACA. To say that your synthetic cannabinoid is completely safe is not only completely stupid, but goes against everything else you have said about synthetic pharmaceuticals - but we don't want to take the blinders off the horse, do we?

I have never said MMB-CHMINACA is safe. But who cares, alcohol and cigarettes cause cancer. There is nothing worse than cancer or is there? Ill leave the cancer researcher to choose.

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Blood thinning from NSAIDs? Not exactly. NSAIDs might increase coagulation times but that is not blood thinning and it is definitely not 'permanent.' Have you every heard of a half-life?

As Nicotine(I do understand that Nicotine is not a carcinogen. Just wanted to show you how retarded you sound) half-life is only 1-2 hours, cigarettes cause cancer only for 1-2 hours. Alcohol cancer only for 12 hours. Yep, when you stop smoking cigarettes your cancer goes away.

NICE ONE BRO, U RLY SMART.

[dopamine]

I would just like to mention that even if Cannabis/Marijuana did cure cancer, you guys would not know about it. Why? Tobacco and the Alcohol industry is the biggest donator to the cancer research and the biggest cancer causer in the world. Pharma is second biggest donator. The only "cure" we know is Chermotherapy, which costs up to 30 MOTHER FUCKING THOUSAND DOLLARS in the united states of america. Marijuana is free. Do the math, is it really worth curing cancer for free? Nope. They will wait until they find some expensive synthetic chemical that not only cures cancer but also fucks up our body SO its WORTH to THEM to GIVE IT TO US. Oh wait, they already did that.. Its called Chermotherapy.

Spoiler:

Not claiming Cannabis cures cancer. Just saying that even if it did then big industrys would do anything they can to make sure no one knows about it. (lol, Cannabis is illegal in most in the world, lololol, but yea, thats irrelavent 100%.). Anyway, until I get cancer and cure it myself with weed I don't believe it.

[Oni]

I would just like to mention that even if Cannabis/Marijuana did cure cancer, you guys would not know about it. Why? Tobacco and the Alcohol industry is the biggest donator to the cancer research and the biggest cancer causer in the world. Pharma is second biggest donator. The only "cure" we know is Chermotherapy, which costs up to 30 MOTHER FUCKING THOUSAND DOLLARS in the united states of america. Marijuana is free. Do the math, is it really worth curing cancer for free? Nope. They will wait until they find some expensive synthetic chemical that not only cures cancer but also fucks up our body SO its WORTH to THEM to GIVE IT TO US. Oh wait, they already did that.. Its called Chermotherapy.

Spoiler:

Not claiming Cannabis cures cancer. Just saying that even if it did then big industrys would do anything they can to make sure no one knows about it. (lol, Cannabis is illegal in most in the world, lololol, but yea, thats irrelavent 100%.). Anyway, until I get cancer and cure it myself with weed I don't believe it.

I just noticed, but you guys don't cite any of this information... And it is a lot of information...

[dopamine]

I just noticed, but you guys don't cite any of this information... And it is a lot of information...

Its called logic and connecting dots. I know this is hard to believe Oni, but think about it... How hard is it to believe that we have cancer mother fucking researchers on a script kiddy forum.. lol

[V12-POWER]

in uruguay we have legal marijuana. land of freedom boyz.

[dopamine]

in uruguay we have legal marijuana. land of freedom boyz.

This thread is not about cannabis being illegal. I am just sick of these clouded people who will call me stupid and unintelligent because I can see things they cant and I can connect dots they can't.

But whatever, this mother fucker who said blood thinning drugs only thinn it just for its half-life can choke on his cancer. What is more funny is that the same mother fucker talks about my MMB-CHMINACA being unsafe while there is cancer(Alcohol and Tobacco) sold in stores for everyone to consume. My mmb-chminaca at least does not cause cancer. Can someone answer me.. What is worse than cancer? Anything at all? Imagine you have fucking huge cancer on your cheek and this kid yells in store at u: "Look mommy at that ugly mother fucker, he drank alcohol and smoked cigarettes because he is a retarded low life piece of shit, we should totally stab him in the eye". Only in my dreams such attitude will be given to cigarette smokers and alcohol drinkers, they are the lowest of the low in the society(because crack whores and heroin addicts don't make you breathe the cancer causing cigarette smoke every mother fucking damn day on the street).

You say government cares about your health? How come u can fucking smoke cigs on the street and blow cancer in 2 year old face? SURE THEY FUCKING CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH!

Oh yeah, you cigarette smokers don't give me that shit "uhh its hard to quit, you would not understand". Actually, I do understand. I started smoking at age of 6, which is more than 10 years ago and I quit 6 months ago. Yes I smoked cigarettes(about a pack a day) for 10 years and quit. I did it, so can you.

Spoiler:

Funny how I decided to quit cigarettes soon after discovering illegal drugs. Guys, stay away from narcotics they are bad for you.

Btw, happy xmas.

[A5^]

Go go go. Get addicted on DMT. Do it. It causes intense euphoria but has absolutely no addiction potential because of serotonin syndrome. When ur body is out of serotonin, ur high is just shit so you naturally stop taking DMT. Same story KINDA goes to MDMA.

You must be confused. DMT is a serotonin agonist, and not a releasing agent (such as MDMA) - as such, you can continue taking it, though you would probably need escalating doses due to the fact that DMT causes very rapid tolerance. DMT is metabolized extremely quickly and you would have to take a heroic dose and be on some sort of MAOI in order to experience serotonin syndrome.

Moreover, serotonin syndrome can be lethal and is due to an excess of syndrome, not a lack. If you have severe serotonin syndrome, the last thing you'll care about is your high.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.

[dopamine]

You must be confused. DMT is a serotonin agonist, and not a releasing agent (such as MDMA) - as such, you can continue taking it, though you would probably need escalating doses due to the fact that DMT causes very rapid tolerance. DMT is metabolized extremely quickly and you would have to take a heroic dose and be on some sort of MAOI in order to experience serotonin syndrome.

Moreover, serotonin syndrome can be lethal and is due to an excess of syndrome, not a lack. If you have severe serotonin syndrome, the last thing you'll care about is your high.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.

I did not know about that. I didn't know that you can agonize serotonin and also release it(or slow down its reuptake). Also yeah, serotonin syndrome = excess of serotonin not lack. I obviously need to do my home work on serotonin.

Ok. That is all you can quote on me? I wrote 3 long posts related to this topic and you took one small part which I did not know much about(never done DMT or MDMA, so naturally I haven't done very extensive reading).

The morphine addiction part is correct though.

[strangecolour]

I respect you, great post, great reasoning.